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		<title>Comment on FILM: the most horrible feminist shite I ever saw by Michael Heaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Heaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn’t misogyny just a specialised branch of misanthropy? 
Feminism is a belief in women’s rights and equality. How could anyone be against that?
Women are people – men are people – we are all humans. Why should our social, cultural, political views and actions be predicated on the details of an individual’s reproductive plumbing rather than a more rational evaluation of their ability to contribute and their needs? 
We have big brains – that allows to make nuanced judgements
So let’s not regress back down the phylogenetic scale to the behaviour of Praying mantis or Black widow spiders
It’s nice to be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t misogyny just a specialised branch of misanthropy?<br />
Feminism is a belief in women’s rights and equality. How could anyone be against that?<br />
Women are people – men are people – we are all humans. Why should our social, cultural, political views and actions be predicated on the details of an individual’s reproductive plumbing rather than a more rational evaluation of their ability to contribute and their needs?<br />
We have big brains – that allows to make nuanced judgements<br />
So let’s not regress back down the phylogenetic scale to the behaviour of Praying mantis or Black widow spiders<br />
It’s nice to be nice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FILM: the most horrible feminist shite I ever saw by AnnG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the world was full of hatred before that - well documented by Germaine Greer, and clearly demonstrated in the history books. Alas, all around the world, women are still treated as if they aren&#039;t quite human - denied education, being punished for any sexual expression, genital mutiliation, being stoned for adultery, being left to burn in schools because they weren&#039;t modestly covered... And our enlightened Western governments turn a blind eye and make deals with these regimes, if there is financial benefit. 

Of course there are a great many men who are exploited, but generally it is by richer and more powerful men, and not by the few rich and powerful women. The evidence still shows that women do a huge proportion of the world&#039;s work, in exchange for a tiny portion of it&#039;s wealth. 

I believe it has been in the interest of capitalism to set mena nd women againts each other, to keep our minds distracted from the great injustices that are perpetrated on all of us.

From what I gather the film is a thriller, and so many of them are biased in the other direction. Think of all the Chandler women, and the idea of women presented in the whole noir genre. 

The suspicion and bleakness is just part of the genre, and complaining about it is akin to objecting to innuendo in Carry On films.

I&#039;m reminded of the Michael Winner film. He was challenged about the sexism in his films on the Channel 4 discussion programme After Dark, and he said that if someone came to him with the gender roles reversed, he would still be inter5ested in making the film. What was it called? Dirty Weekend, I think. A female main character who was raped and abused went on a spree and killed lots of men who tried to take advanatage of her. 

I don&#039;t read a film like that as a commentary on the relationhsip between all men and all women - it&#039;s justa  story that chooses to look at the dark side of a few extreme situations. 

Now that may illuminate and tell us something about the wider society we live in - but mostly I think it doesn&#039;t. Mostly I think these are just stories where we can indulge our desire to split off all the nastiness that is in us all and project it safely out there, and then leave it behind afterwards. Just like some people do when playing violent computer games. 

I think your understanding of feminism is deeply flawed and based on a very few extreme examples. Of course the radical separatists exist - but mostly feminism isn&#039;t like that at all. The vast majority of feminists are living perfectly happily in harmony with the men in their lives - and just want justice and equality, and for women to live free of fear. Most of us think that would be better for men too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the world was full of hatred before that &#8211; well documented by Germaine Greer, and clearly demonstrated in the history books. Alas, all around the world, women are still treated as if they aren&#8217;t quite human &#8211; denied education, being punished for any sexual expression, genital mutiliation, being stoned for adultery, being left to burn in schools because they weren&#8217;t modestly covered&#8230; And our enlightened Western governments turn a blind eye and make deals with these regimes, if there is financial benefit. </p>
<p>Of course there are a great many men who are exploited, but generally it is by richer and more powerful men, and not by the few rich and powerful women. The evidence still shows that women do a huge proportion of the world&#8217;s work, in exchange for a tiny portion of it&#8217;s wealth. </p>
<p>I believe it has been in the interest of capitalism to set mena nd women againts each other, to keep our minds distracted from the great injustices that are perpetrated on all of us.</p>
<p>From what I gather the film is a thriller, and so many of them are biased in the other direction. Think of all the Chandler women, and the idea of women presented in the whole noir genre. </p>
<p>The suspicion and bleakness is just part of the genre, and complaining about it is akin to objecting to innuendo in Carry On films.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of the Michael Winner film. He was challenged about the sexism in his films on the Channel 4 discussion programme After Dark, and he said that if someone came to him with the gender roles reversed, he would still be inter5ested in making the film. What was it called? Dirty Weekend, I think. A female main character who was raped and abused went on a spree and killed lots of men who tried to take advanatage of her. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t read a film like that as a commentary on the relationhsip between all men and all women &#8211; it&#8217;s justa  story that chooses to look at the dark side of a few extreme situations. </p>
<p>Now that may illuminate and tell us something about the wider society we live in &#8211; but mostly I think it doesn&#8217;t. Mostly I think these are just stories where we can indulge our desire to split off all the nastiness that is in us all and project it safely out there, and then leave it behind afterwards. Just like some people do when playing violent computer games. </p>
<p>I think your understanding of feminism is deeply flawed and based on a very few extreme examples. Of course the radical separatists exist &#8211; but mostly feminism isn&#8217;t like that at all. The vast majority of feminists are living perfectly happily in harmony with the men in their lives &#8211; and just want justice and equality, and for women to live free of fear. Most of us think that would be better for men too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FILM: the most horrible feminist shite I ever saw by RealSteveHolmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>RealSteveHolmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find the use of the word &quot;stereotype&quot; in these matters very interesting, as if there could somehow be a descriptive phrase that is not a &quot;persuasive definition&quot;. As if we should all agree that Roman Polanski is still deserving of drastic retribution and we all agree that &quot;Hollywood&quot; has treated women badly. I do not. Hollywood has made many useless but superficially attractive women wealthy beyond dreams of avarice and they have been happy to accept that lifestyle while other women, and men, have toiled in despair as waiter, kitchen staff and busboys in the places that celebrities gather.

This is a film of almost unparalleled bleakness of vision in which no man can even have a decent thought. This is what I have understood is the heart of feminism since I witnessed it&#039;s birth on the campus of Sussex University straight after Germaine Greer&#039;s obscene book, in 1968 - and the world was suddenly full of hatred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find the use of the word &#8220;stereotype&#8221; in these matters very interesting, as if there could somehow be a descriptive phrase that is not a &#8220;persuasive definition&#8221;. As if we should all agree that Roman Polanski is still deserving of drastic retribution and we all agree that &#8220;Hollywood&#8221; has treated women badly. I do not. Hollywood has made many useless but superficially attractive women wealthy beyond dreams of avarice and they have been happy to accept that lifestyle while other women, and men, have toiled in despair as waiter, kitchen staff and busboys in the places that celebrities gather.</p>
<p>This is a film of almost unparalleled bleakness of vision in which no man can even have a decent thought. This is what I have understood is the heart of feminism since I witnessed it&#8217;s birth on the campus of Sussex University straight after Germaine Greer&#8217;s obscene book, in 1968 &#8211; and the world was suddenly full of hatred.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FILM: the most horrible feminist shite I ever saw by AnnG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen the film, so I can&#039;t comment on that.

However, to equate feminism with man hating is plain old fashioned lazy thinking - just as bad as the extreme radical feminist position that all men are potential rapists, or the view that all Muslims are potential terrorists. 

Feminism covers a whole range of beliefs, but the basis of it is merely about equality. Feminists are girlfriends, wives, mothers, sisters, daughters - hell, some of them are even men. Let&#039;s not get carried away with demonising a stereotype. 

Something is terribly wrong with Hollywood - the way so  many of its denizens have queued up to defend Roman Polanski is completely shocking. 

However, when you analyse the entire output of Hollywood, and consider the way women have been depicted in every genre, I don&#039;t think one or two films that shows that some men behave badly to women will do anything to redress the balance. 

Let&#039;s see - Glenn Close the bunny boiler, Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct, the way that sexual young women get punished in such films in the horror genre as Halloween, while the chaste ones survive.

Ann - still feminist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the film, so I can&#8217;t comment on that.</p>
<p>However, to equate feminism with man hating is plain old fashioned lazy thinking &#8211; just as bad as the extreme radical feminist position that all men are potential rapists, or the view that all Muslims are potential terrorists. </p>
<p>Feminism covers a whole range of beliefs, but the basis of it is merely about equality. Feminists are girlfriends, wives, mothers, sisters, daughters &#8211; hell, some of them are even men. Let&#8217;s not get carried away with demonising a stereotype. </p>
<p>Something is terribly wrong with Hollywood &#8211; the way so  many of its denizens have queued up to defend Roman Polanski is completely shocking. </p>
<p>However, when you analyse the entire output of Hollywood, and consider the way women have been depicted in every genre, I don&#8217;t think one or two films that shows that some men behave badly to women will do anything to redress the balance. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see &#8211; Glenn Close the bunny boiler, Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct, the way that sexual young women get punished in such films in the horror genre as Halloween, while the chaste ones survive.</p>
<p>Ann &#8211; still feminist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Commentary on Touch by Cora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a coincidence, first reading this blog about &#039;The Pleasant American&#039; and next watching the film &#039;The people vs Larry Flint&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a coincidence, first reading this blog about &#8216;The Pleasant American&#8217; and next watching the film &#8216;The people vs Larry Flint&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A vague feeling of discomfort by Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, good to hear of the success. It might not feel personal but---perhaps it is. For I have always forever felt that all is well with the world, though not always with me.

If mind is trying to control everything then it doesn&#039;t take much intelligence living in the guts to guess what the message is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, good to hear of the success. It might not feel personal but&#8212;perhaps it is. For I have always forever felt that all is well with the world, though not always with me.</p>
<p>If mind is trying to control everything then it doesn&#8217;t take much intelligence living in the guts to guess what the message is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1.7 Diderot and his soul mates by Cora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stan

Strange, isn&#039;t it, how easily people can destroy their friendships...

But is it really that easy, let&#039;s presume there&#039;s something underneath. 
A friendship has been ended because one of both feels terribly hurt by the other, by a misjudgement, a misunderstanding, or another grief... To show how horrific this experience is the injured friend wants to make a big, serious gesture, the worst that he can think of, that is by ending the friendship. And suffering from ending it. 

In the case of Diderot and Rousseau, after their break they both lived for another twenty five years. Both were well-known men and thus informed about each other&#039;s activities in life. By their letters we know that they never stopped regretting the loss of their friendship, and yet, they never succeeded in repairing this loss.  
  
So I think we do suffer from such deeds like ending a cherished friendship. It shows as well our incompetence, that it is hard to fill up each other&#039;s gaps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stan</p>
<p>Strange, isn&#8217;t it, how easily people can destroy their friendships&#8230;</p>
<p>But is it really that easy, let&#8217;s presume there&#8217;s something underneath.<br />
A friendship has been ended because one of both feels terribly hurt by the other, by a misjudgement, a misunderstanding, or another grief&#8230; To show how horrific this experience is the injured friend wants to make a big, serious gesture, the worst that he can think of, that is by ending the friendship. And suffering from ending it. </p>
<p>In the case of Diderot and Rousseau, after their break they both lived for another twenty five years. Both were well-known men and thus informed about each other&#8217;s activities in life. By their letters we know that they never stopped regretting the loss of their friendship, and yet, they never succeeded in repairing this loss.  </p>
<p>So I think we do suffer from such deeds like ending a cherished friendship. It shows as well our incompetence, that it is hard to fill up each other&#8217;s gaps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5.3.6 Friendship and Equality by Cora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problems to be friends with my...yoga teacher nor with someone who runs a carpenter workshop. It gets a bit more tricky when I&#039;m thinking of my GP...and my dentist...my friend the dentist, who knows all about my teeth and my thoughts... well, that should really not be a problem.

But... when one of my pupils should aim for a more amicable contact, I would be on my guard, always aware of the consequences of what I&#039;m saying.
Therefore the friendship would not be between equals. Perhaps we need a new name for such contacts, not a friendship, but a &#039;teacher/pupil&#039; something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problems to be friends with my&#8230;yoga teacher nor with someone who runs a carpenter workshop. It gets a bit more tricky when I&#8217;m thinking of my GP&#8230;and my dentist&#8230;my friend the dentist, who knows all about my teeth and my thoughts&#8230; well, that should really not be a problem.</p>
<p>But&#8230; when one of my pupils should aim for a more amicable contact, I would be on my guard, always aware of the consequences of what I&#8217;m saying.<br />
Therefore the friendship would not be between equals. Perhaps we need a new name for such contacts, not a friendship, but a &#8216;teacher/pupil&#8217; something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5.3.3 Friendship: the Content and the Void by Cora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your questions are worth some pondering, Ann...
Surely this void is a gap in ourselves.
Perhaps we should define to each other what we understand by issues like friendship and its conditions.For instance, how do we find out when we are feeling something on the same level, the same extent...
Should we write a pledge with conditions and a get-out clause...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your questions are worth some pondering, Ann&#8230;<br />
Surely this void is a gap in ourselves.<br />
Perhaps we should define to each other what we understand by issues like friendship and its conditions.For instance, how do we find out when we are feeling something on the same level, the same extent&#8230;<br />
Should we write a pledge with conditions and a get-out clause&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1.7 Diderot and his soul mates by Stan Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cora

I am constantly amazed at how what appears to be the smallest of matters can breakdown and destroy friendships that have lasted for many years. I have been on the outside looking-in on a number of occasions where this has happened; but thankfully not yet experienced it myself.

It’s almost like a hardwired switch has been operated in the brain and no amount of talking or reasoning is going to make the slightest bit of difference. Why is this?

Stan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cora</p>
<p>I am constantly amazed at how what appears to be the smallest of matters can breakdown and destroy friendships that have lasted for many years. I have been on the outside looking-in on a number of occasions where this has happened; but thankfully not yet experienced it myself.</p>
<p>It’s almost like a hardwired switch has been operated in the brain and no amount of talking or reasoning is going to make the slightest bit of difference. Why is this?</p>
<p>Stan</p>
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